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One day a member of the Bramho Samaj approached Ramakrishna (circa 1870) and asked "Do you believe that God is WITH FORM (SAGUNA) or FORMLESS (NIRGUNA)?" since the Bramho Samaj "denomination", concentrated, much like the Jews, on a concept of God who has no form, invisible (No man hath seen the Father at any time).
Ramakrishna answered: "He is both WITH FORM, and FORMLESS, and transcends all FORM and FORMLESSNESS."
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